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	<title>Comments on: Ten Things We Learned in the Portland-Seattle USOC Game</title>
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		<title>By: vancouverite(WA)</title>
		<link>http://seattle.theoffside.com/team-news/ten-things-we-learned-in-the-portland-seattle-usoc-game.html#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>vancouverite(WA)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when is assault, 3 on 1 not punished?  The Seattle guy in the beer garden wasn&#039;t just taunted but attacked, he went to the ground after 3 timbers fans pulled his scarf causing him to fall and then stripped his two pole.  

He was in a dangerous position with his head down, himself exposed, and he came up swinging.  I know from your vantage (Loser) you could not have seen what went down, because the Jaqua goal/offside was at the other end.  From our end we saw one guy get attacked and defend himself.

Please explain assault as a class above, but self defense as classless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when is assault, 3 on 1 not punished?  The Seattle guy in the beer garden wasn&#8217;t just taunted but attacked, he went to the ground after 3 timbers fans pulled his scarf causing him to fall and then stripped his two pole.  </p>
<p>He was in a dangerous position with his head down, himself exposed, and he came up swinging.  I know from your vantage (Loser) you could not have seen what went down, because the Jaqua goal/offside was at the other end.  From our end we saw one guy get attacked and defend himself.</p>
<p>Please explain assault as a class above, but self defense as classless?</p>
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		<title>By: loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dustin,  i&#039;ve been watching and playing this game for close to thirty years.  pretty sure the us open cup uses the standard fifa offside rule.  i mean, unless i&#039;m completely wrong and they subscribe to the highest bidder offside rule, then jaqua was off.  a player does not have to be completely past the last defender.  in that case, it&#039;s at the referee/linesman&#039;s discretion.  maybe i&#039;m not the one who needs to brush up on my comprehension of rules.

also, there&#039;s a difference between a company owning stakes in a number of teams in a league to help build the league, and one person owning multiple teams.  personally, i suspect that paul allen is a big reason why the rose quarter was shot down as a potential site for the beavers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dustin,  i&#8217;ve been watching and playing this game for close to thirty years.  pretty sure the us open cup uses the standard fifa offside rule.  i mean, unless i&#8217;m completely wrong and they subscribe to the highest bidder offside rule, then jaqua was off.  a player does not have to be completely past the last defender.  in that case, it&#8217;s at the referee/linesman&#8217;s discretion.  maybe i&#8217;m not the one who needs to brush up on my comprehension of rules.</p>
<p>also, there&#8217;s a difference between a company owning stakes in a number of teams in a league to help build the league, and one person owning multiple teams.  personally, i suspect that paul allen is a big reason why the rose quarter was shot down as a potential site for the beavers.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, one more point.  MLS has no rules against cross-ownership.  They&#039;re trying to discourage it these days to help build the league, but at one point I think AEG owned something like half the teams.  Hence no &quot;conflict of interest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one more point.  MLS has no rules against cross-ownership.  They&#8217;re trying to discourage it these days to help build the league, but at one point I think AEG owned something like half the teams.  Hence no &#8220;conflict of interest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-jaqua’s “goal”. where i sit, i can see when someone is offside. he wasn’t too far off, but he was visibly off.

I&#039;m quite willing to bet you couldn&#039;t explain to me or anyone what it means to be offsides without looking at the Laws of the Game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-jaqua’s “goal”. where i sit, i can see when someone is offside. he wasn’t too far off, but he was visibly off.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite willing to bet you couldn&#8217;t explain to me or anyone what it means to be offsides without looking at the Laws of the Game.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;-paul allen chipping in. did you not know that paul allen is a shareholder in your club? wouldn’t that make it a conflict of interest? isn’t it sad that so many of your fans know so little about your club?&lt;/em&gt;

Isn&#039;t it a shame that so many people from down south can&#039;t comprehend humor/irony.  

Since I apparently didn&#039;t make myself clear the first time (although surprisingly, most of the Seattle fans seem to have gotten it), my point was that this rivalry will be so good for soccer in the northwest that it would almost make sense for Paul Allen to make it possible to continue it, even at the expense of a &quot;conflict of interest.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>-paul allen chipping in. did you not know that paul allen is a shareholder in your club? wouldn’t that make it a conflict of interest? isn’t it sad that so many of your fans know so little about your club?</em></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it a shame that so many people from down south can&#8217;t comprehend humor/irony.  </p>
<p>Since I apparently didn&#8217;t make myself clear the first time (although surprisingly, most of the Seattle fans seem to have gotten it), my point was that this rivalry will be so good for soccer in the northwest that it would almost make sense for Paul Allen to make it possible to continue it, even at the expense of a &#8220;conflict of interest.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: loser</title>
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		<dc:creator>loser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where to begin?  regarding:

-nyassi.  he goes down and doesn&#039;t move for as long as he did, couldn&#039;t move himself off the pitch, yet he&#039;s capable of walking it off no problem and going back into the match after the ref doesn&#039;t buy his charade.  no, there&#039;s nothing wrong with that at all.
-drunk fan arrested.  he was being taunted?  they tried to steal his scarf?  and this is justification to start throwing punches.  fact is, your own fans were caught making the same threats on your own message board.  if you can&#039;t deal with being taunted at an away match, tighten your huggies and stay home.
-jaqua&#039;s &quot;goal&quot;.  where i sit, i can see when someone is offside.  he wasn&#039;t too far off, but he was visibly off.
-paul allen chipping in.  did you not know that paul allen is a shareholder in your club?  wouldn&#039;t that make it a conflict of interest?  isn&#039;t it sad that so many of your fans know so little about your club?
-”Please somebody help me find something Seattle has gotten wrong.”  how about throwing punches because someone was taunting them?  how about trying to fight security and police?  throwing smoke bombs onto the pitch is no big deal, right?  hell, throwing smoke bombs in general.  maybe even knowing that you have your own designated section for your own safety, and wandering into areas populated by opposing fans?  maybe that one&#039;s not wrong, but it sure isn&#039;t smart if timbers fans are such bad people.

fact is, time and time again, the timbers and the timbers army has shown that we can perform and display ourselves with more class than seattle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where to begin?  regarding:</p>
<p>-nyassi.  he goes down and doesn&#8217;t move for as long as he did, couldn&#8217;t move himself off the pitch, yet he&#8217;s capable of walking it off no problem and going back into the match after the ref doesn&#8217;t buy his charade.  no, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with that at all.<br />
-drunk fan arrested.  he was being taunted?  they tried to steal his scarf?  and this is justification to start throwing punches.  fact is, your own fans were caught making the same threats on your own message board.  if you can&#8217;t deal with being taunted at an away match, tighten your huggies and stay home.<br />
-jaqua&#8217;s &#8220;goal&#8221;.  where i sit, i can see when someone is offside.  he wasn&#8217;t too far off, but he was visibly off.<br />
-paul allen chipping in.  did you not know that paul allen is a shareholder in your club?  wouldn&#8217;t that make it a conflict of interest?  isn&#8217;t it sad that so many of your fans know so little about your club?<br />
-”Please somebody help me find something Seattle has gotten wrong.”  how about throwing punches because someone was taunting them?  how about trying to fight security and police?  throwing smoke bombs onto the pitch is no big deal, right?  hell, throwing smoke bombs in general.  maybe even knowing that you have your own designated section for your own safety, and wandering into areas populated by opposing fans?  maybe that one&#8217;s not wrong, but it sure isn&#8217;t smart if timbers fans are such bad people.</p>
<p>fact is, time and time again, the timbers and the timbers army has shown that we can perform and display ourselves with more class than seattle.</p>
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		<title>By: deathpenaltykick</title>
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		<dc:creator>deathpenaltykick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were Seattle supporters over in our section taunting us, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were Seattle supporters over in our section taunting us, too.</p>
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		<title>By: yamsmos</title>
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		<dc:creator>yamsmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm. ok, well i am willing to amdmit wrong here. after all, i was in the complete opposite end of the stadium and i had a taste of beer for the first time in my life. it went to my head. 

but i am still going to stick to my guns on this... if the ref didn&#039;t think he was hurt, play could have continued. the keeper obviously didn&#039;t know the rules. 

and the 5+ minutes more than made up for it. 

anywho. enough of that. i am working on pissing off some portland fans over on my blog here in just a sec.... come on over and join in the comments. they are a class above if you didn&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm. ok, well i am willing to amdmit wrong here. after all, i was in the complete opposite end of the stadium and i had a taste of beer for the first time in my life. it went to my head. </p>
<p>but i am still going to stick to my guns on this&#8230; if the ref didn&#8217;t think he was hurt, play could have continued. the keeper obviously didn&#8217;t know the rules. </p>
<p>and the 5+ minutes more than made up for it. </p>
<p>anywho. enough of that. i am working on pissing off some portland fans over on my blog here in just a sec&#8230;. come on over and join in the comments. they are a class above if you didn&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, you may think my fears were baseless, but you forget that I have relatives who are TA.  I &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; what these people are capable of when they get a few beers in &#039;em.  :-D  

(Kidding, family members.  Almost entirely kidding.)  

Good to have you back, btw!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, you may think my fears were baseless, but you forget that I have relatives who are TA.  I <em>know</em> what these people are capable of when they get a few beers in &#8216;em.  <img src='http://seattle.theoffside.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>(Kidding, family members.  Almost entirely kidding.)  </p>
<p>Good to have you back, btw!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kellett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Kellett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>World War III did not break out.  Told ya :-)</description>
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